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« on: 15 September 2011, 01:39:41 pm »

David
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143 Posts   Posted - 13/11/2002 :  1:06:41 PM 
Neil Smiths 'Men of Beersheba' page 11 shows an image titled The Emeden. I was wondering if this was correct? I'm not sure that this is the Emden at all but a Lighter which sunk in a storm off the coast near El Arish in 1916? Atleast on of my Grandfathers images is similar and titled as such.
Rob THomas
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Australia
464 Posts    Posted - 13/11/2002 :  3:35:46 PM 
the emden is a lot bigger than a lighter!!
David
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Australia
143 Posts    Posted - 13/11/2002 :  4:59:24 PM 
The same ship is pictured in several images on the AWM database, certainly the same as that in the photos in my possesion.See J02869 for example, there described as small supply steam ship.
Rob THomas
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Australia
464 Posts    Posted - 13/11/2002 :  5:34:34 PM 
AWM A03682 is a very clear picture of the EMden and shows it a a triple funnel with Bridge and top mast to the fore of the ship and another mast to the rear.
stevebecker
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1353 Posts    Posted - 13/11/2002 :  5:40:27 PM 
The British and Egyptian goverments had a large number of coastal ships that ran along the coast of the Mediteanean before, during and after the war.
This is system is older that christ and was used during the war to supply the army as it moved up to Gaza and beyond.

The railway took some time to finish and the men had to be supplied.

There are a number of photos around showing the unloading of ships over the beach as there was no dock.

The navy helped the Army by shelling targets inland as well as engaging enemy shipping.

You can read the naval war in the Med in their offical history but it is hard to find.

S.B

David
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Australia
143 Posts    Posted - 13/11/2002 :  5:42:15 PM 
Single funnel two masts.The book came out a while ago so i guess Neil knows by now?
stevebecker
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1353 Posts    Posted - 13/11/2002 :  5:46:44 PM 
P.S
The photo in Neil's book is the "SMS Emden" sank off Cocs island in 1914.

Its placement is to show that the 4th LHR was in the first convoy to sail to Egypt and as such shows there incounter with this raider.

The photo is a long distance shot hence its size. But the lines and funnels are unmistakeable as the famous Emden. Laying on its side on the outer reef.

S.B

David
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Australia
143 Posts    Posted - 13/11/2002 :  6:49:55 PM 
Steve and Rob, my guess is that there are several editions and that the mistake was rectified in later editions?
The edition i have is 1993 (it doesnt lists reprints so i take it that it's a 1st Edition).
I am aware of what the Emden looked like. In the copy i have the ship depicted is the same as in the photos in my possesion (the reason it caught my attention) and on the AWM database J00909 and J02869.

stevebecker
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1353 Posts    Posted - 13/11/2002 :  8:03:50 PM 
Agreeed,
I had to look twice at the photo in Neils book as it shows the Emden with one funnel and two masts.

The photos I have either show the Emden before the battle or with one funnel and one mast or with two masts and one full and two rements funnels.

See Dan Van der Vat's book "The Last Corsair" not as in Neils photo.

S.B

Bryn
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Japan
222 Posts    Posted - 18/11/2002 :  6:58:47 PM 
Guys, there are good photos of the Emden on these sites:
http://www.deutsche-passagierschiffe.de/emden_1914.htm

http://computasaur.tripod.com/ww1/id16.html


Bryn
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