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« on: 15 September 2011, 07:15:55 pm »

stevebecker
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1835 Posts   Posted - 09/08/2003 :  10:35:07 AM 
Andrew,
Do you have anything on the rail accident that took the life of Pte Percy John Nash 195.

He embarked with ASqn/11 LHR and served on Gallipoli with the 2nd LHR. After he joined the 4 Camel Regt and 4th Bn 18Co Camel Corps and fought with them till disbandment and ended up in the 4th LH MGS.

He RTA 24-7-19 and during the stop over in Freo he must of went on leave to Perth as he is shown as killed 19-8-1919 jumping from a moving train at Fremantle and buried at Karrakatta WA.

Do you know of any Police report or do you hve his service doc's as you were doing a book on these men?

Thanks for any insight

S.B

Andrew P
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Australia
154 Posts    Posted - 12/08/2003 :  2:18:59 PM 
Hi Steve
Unfortunately I don't have any more info on this incident.
(Once I can get a day off work)I'm due to go to the Battye soon to look up the Freo Herald & Western Mail on microfiche, so will look to see if there are any reports on the death of Nash.
I'm pretty sure an incident like this would have made the local paper at least.

Cheers
Andrew

Andrew P
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154 Posts    Posted - 04/11/2004 :  2:07:01 PM 
Hi Steve
Eventually was able to take a day off work to go to Battye Library to look up the microfiche over a year after you posted the query, but I hope it's better late than never.
Two articles found in West Australian & Western Mail, but nothing in Sunday Times.

West Australian 20 August 1919
City Tragedies
“As the result of two tragic happenings in the city last night, two returned soldiers, both of whom had considerable service in the AIF lost their lives. The first of these occurrences took place at the Central Railway Station. On the departure of the 9.10 train for Fremantle No.795 Trooper P.L Nash of the 4th Australian Machine Gun Squadron, whose home is in Melbourne, had been visiting the City, and is stated to have become worse for liquor.
A friend escorted him to the Railway Station and placed him on board the 9.10 train. Just as the train started however, Nash opened the carriage door and attempted to regain the platform. He missed his footing and fell between the next to last carriage and the platform. Porter Pratt witnessed the incident but was unable to reach Nash in time to prevent him falling. In the hope of saving the soldier he pluckily jumped between the carriages, disconnected the vacuum brake connection and stopped the train, but Nash was already under the Carriage. No time was lost in procuring Jacks, with which the carriage was lifted. Pratt then crawled underneath and he found the body of the unfortunate man shockingly mutilated, lying face downwards, legs and body between the metals and the platform, head and arms on the other side of the metals. Life was extinct.”

Western Mail Aug 21
“Two tragic happenings occurred in the city on Tuesday night. In the first case Trooper P Nash attempted to jump from a train to the platform of the central station but missing his footing fell between the carriage and platform and was horribly mangled before Porter Pratt stopped the train by pluckily disconnecting the vacuum brake between the two carriages.
In the second instance W Blair fell down the stairs of the Great Western Hotel and was picked up unconscious but when a doctor arrived life was pronounced extinct."

When I finished at Battye I caught the train at the Central Station to head back to Fremantle, and I found myself wondering where the exact spot was in the Station that Nash lost his life.

Hope it is of interest.

Cheers
Andrew


stevebecker
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1835 Posts    Posted - 04/11/2004 :  5:54:35 PM 
Many Thanks Mate,
That was interesting.

All reports I have read all give the idea he jumped at Freo station.

I guess that is wrong and it was in fact Perth's central.

I'll have to redo this part.

Great work

S.B

Andrew P
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Australia
154 Posts    Posted - 09/11/2004 :  2:34:29 PM 
Hi Steve
Do you need a photo of his grave? I've got a couple to take at Karrakatta in a few weeks time so can add Nash to my list if you'd like.

Cheers
Andrew



stevebecker
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1835 Posts    Posted - 09/11/2004 :  5:34:31 PM 
Thanks Mate,
Yes it would be nice to see what type he has. Weather CWCG's head stone or other.

S.B

shaz
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Australia
9 Posts    Posted - 11/11/2004 :  6:43:24 PM 
Excuse me for butting in but I go to Karrakatta Cemetery frequently through my business and so know the place very well. Thought I would save you some time and look for Nash's gravesite.
Well for a start there is no grave site as such to photograph. He was buried with no monument in what was called a 'free grave' now a days referred to as a 'government grave'. He is recorded only as Percy John Nash. To help locate the grave site if interested; Barbara & James Sharrett lie to the left of Percy and William & Elizabeth Sharrett to the right.

Steve, I took photos of the area if you are interested in them. This area of the cemetery is now a memorial garden and has undergone significant change. I also obtained a copy of the "In Memory Of" card if you want it.

Shazz

stevebecker
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1835 Posts    Posted - 11/11/2004 :  7:10:57 PM 
Thanks Shazz,
I am in shock to lean this man was not given some formal grave stone.

Since he was still a serving soldier when he died so he should have recieved a CWGC head stone.

I'll have to check there net site to find out why he was not given one.

I would say that on this day in particular (11th of the 11th of the 11th) that any soldier should have recieved a head stone.

Cheers

S.B

shaz
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Australia
9 Posts    Posted - 11/11/2004 :  9:27:22 PM 
Steve,
It is a shame that a bloke who served his country now lies and has lain since his death with no acknowledgement what so ever. I was informed by the Metropolitan Cemetery Board (MCB) person that he would have been given this type of burial if there had been no relatives to pay for it. The cost borne by the government does not extend to a monument this is the families responsibility. A monument can be erected at anytime should any relatives come forward. Did Percy have any relies?

As I mentioned earlier he is also recorded only by Percy John Nash. There are no mention in the records of him being a current serving member of the armed forces. The MCB person was quite surprised to be told this.

If you find out why a headstone was not forthcoming please keep us informed.

In Percy's honour I will dedicate the dove release I did this morning at my local Remembrance Service to him. R.I.P. Percy. We will remember you mate.

philmaur
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Australia
240 Posts    Posted - 11/11/2004 :  10:39:53 PM 
Whilst talking about head stones and the like, I went looking for Hugo Throssell's grave site. When located I find it is in quite a delapitated state for such an illustrious man. Has head stone but that's about all. Was wondering what could be done to rectify it.


shaz
Forum Member


Australia
9 Posts    Posted - 12/11/2004 :  6:36:13 PM 
Maybe a group could be formed in each state to try to look after these graves and maybe put monuments on those without. The legalities of such would need to be looked into of course. We couldn't just take it upon ourselves no matter how honourable our intentions are.
Shazz

Andrew P
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Australia
154 Posts    Posted - 15/11/2004 :  2:40:20 PM 
I'm also amazed that he doesn't have a gravestone. I haven't visited the site yet but will do so. Might be something the OAWG or CWGC will have to be contacted about.
Regards
Andrew
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