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« on: 15 September 2011, 07:49:42 pm »

Andrew P
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Australia
153 Posts   Posted - 26/08/2003 :  12:02:04 PM 
Hi Steve
Was looking through the oral history collection at work and came across a reference for a No.2306 Chalres George Bamkin who was in the 16th Rfcts to the 10th LH and later transferred to the Camels.
I'll hopefully get to listen to this soon. Do you want any relevant info passed on?

Does anyone have an embarkation list for the 10th Light Horse? I have a copy but it's missing part of the 15th & the 16th Reinforcement Group which includes Bamkin's details. Can anyone tell me his enlistment details?

Cheers
Andrew

stevebecker
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1647 Posts    Posted - 26/08/2003 :  1:47:43 PM 
Andrew,
I have the basic on him.

Charles George Bamkin 2306 a 19 year old Dairy Hand from Fremantle WA.

Shown with pre war service in the 86th Inf Regt West aussie Rifles. Joined the 16R/10 LHR 5th January 1916 and embarked with them.

He was ToS 3 LHTR on arrival in Egypt 17-6-16 and transfered to the 1st Anzac Bn 3rd Company 1-9-16.

He was involed in all actions of this company till he transfered to 1st Anzac Bn HQ 13-10-17. I don't know why as yet, could be as a batman or Sig, but no training as sig, so its anyones guess.

He then went to the 14th LHR on disbandment of the ICC (dont know Sqn) and UK leave 10-6-19. There in the UK he under took training as a Dental mechanic and married a local girl.

He return to Aussie 13th January 1920 on the "Shropshire" .

IF you find anything out of this Bio detail I would like it very much.

Thanks for thinking of me

S.B

Andrew P
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Australia
153 Posts    Posted - 27/08/2003 :  1:10:58 PM 
Thanks for the info on Bamkin. I'll let you know once I have listened to the tape.
Cheers
Andrew
Andrew P
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Australia
153 Posts    Posted - 05/09/2003 :  2:37:14 PM 
Steve
Have listened to portion of the tape that talks about his war service and he describes a little bit about enlistment and joining the camels.
He describes a bit about Gaza and Tank Redoubt and how he and other survivors got away before they were made prisoners but he doesn't go into to much detail.
I'll write it up and send you my written notes through the e-mail.

His eldest son died in WW2, Eric Bamkin was in the RAAF with 454 Squadron and was killed in his last mission before he was supposed to go back to Australia. He was killed 08/06/43 and is buried in Tobruk War Cemetery

Bamkin
Forum Member


Kazakhstan
12 Posts    Posted - 06/09/2003 :  08:27:46 AM 
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Hello (2nd try)
I run a web site that specialises in the family history of people called Bamkin. I would be interested in exchanging information. What has already been spoken of looks very interesting.

Roger Bamkin


My address is victuallers @ btiternet.com (without the spaces)
and I'm in the UK (not Kazakstan or whatever it says on the site)
I have had a qick look at my records Charles parents were Frederick John Bamkin and Florence Maylor Pellatt. They had married in 1893 and about 1898 CJB was born. I had no information until today, about Charles family or that Eric was his son. One person notes that Eric was his third child ... what were the others? The real mistory is Frederick John's parents? We know of about 95% of all Bamkin born in the last 200 years and for 80% we know how they are lated to a guy in 1750.... but not Frederick John and his descendants.

Does anyone know Charles' wife's name? Their children's names? Maybe some dates?

oops should have read victuallers @ btinternet.com

stevebecker
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1647 Posts    Posted - 24/09/2003 :  10:58:26 AM 
Roger,
If you recieved my EMail you may be interested in this info on Charles Bamkin.

You asked about the woman Charles married in the UK.

It is;
Doris Lillian Slaney
3 Hampstead House NW 3
age 21 spinster.

Father George Slaney a Dealer

Married Islington London at St Andrew's Church dated 15th September 1919.

Hope you get this

S.B

Bamkin
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Kazakhstan
12 Posts    Posted - 27/09/2003 :  9:49:30 PM 
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You asked about the woman Charles married in the UK.
It is;
Doris Lillian Slaney
3 Hampstead House NW 3
age 21 spinster.
Father George Slaney a Dealer
Married Islington London at St Andrew's Church dated 15th September 1919.

Thats brilliant information. Charles comes from a line that is currently not linked into the majority of Bamkin's (also Bempkins, Bankin and Bampkin are alternatives). I have contacted the line in Australia and I know they are watching the postings.

PS. I really like the software that drives this Forum - very neat.
PPS. If any relatives of Ms. Slaney see this then please contact me.

Bamkin
Forum Member


Kazakhstan
12 Posts    Posted - 02/01/2005 :  12:47:31 AM 
I notice that a picture is available of "Private Bamkin" who was the batman to Captain JD Cramb at cas.awn.gov.au.
The picture is rather poor as the face is in shadow. However in a previous posting one person thought that my relative might have been assigned as a batman ..... but was unsure.

Question. was this "Private Bamkin" the batman to Capt JD Cramb?

Hoping someone here can help

Roger Bamkin

stevebecker
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1647 Posts    Posted - 02/01/2005 :  09:09:29 AM 
Mate,
Capt John Dougal Cramb was the QM of the 1st Anzac Camel Bn and later the 14th LHR.

His batman during early 1917 was Harold Rose from Perth WA untill he returned to his company (1Bn 3Co) in March 1917.

Charles may have replaced him or another soldier as that would fit with the info I have. Dispite the differents in dates.

I believed his batman during this time March to Oct was Sidney Cramb, John's brother but this could not be so because of Sid's arrival date and the fact he was a Sig in the 1st Bn HQ.

It seems both Harold and Charles came from the same area in Australia and from the same companies in the 1st Anzac Bn. They may have been mates. I should also mention that Capt then Lt Cramb was an officer in the 3rd Company before being made the QM in Dec 1916.

cheers

S.B

Bamkin
Forum Member


Kazakhstan
12 Posts    Posted - 02/01/2005 :  1:15:39 PM 
Steve
Thank you for the prompt reply. If you look at this link
http://cas.awm.gov.au/pls/prd/cst.acct_master?surl=752600794ZZZUOUFBMLQLP51037&stype=3&simplesearch=&v_umo=&v_product_id=&screen_name=&screen_parms=&screen_type=RIGHT&bvers=4&bplatform=Microsoft%20Internet%20Explorer&bos=Win32

Then this shows a considerable number of photographs donated by SD Cramb to the awn (australian war mememorial) site. In the set of photos he assigns two to batmen, one to be of "PRIVATE PRYOR, BATMAN TO CAPTAIN J.D. CRAMB, PHOTOGRAPHED OUTSIDE A HUT IN EGYPT. (DONATED BY CAPTAIN J.D. ..."

.... and another to

PRIVATE BAMKIN, BATMAN TO CAPTAIN J.D. CRAMB. (DONATED BY CAPTAIN J.D. CRAMB.)

There appears to be several dozen photos .... and I think at least one is mislabelled ... but these should fill some of the gaps in SD Crambs war record.

I hope you find this of interest too

Roger
(not Kazakstan! UK usually .... although South Korea this week)

stevebecker
Veteran Forum Member
 


1647 Posts    Posted - 02/01/2005 :  5:59:46 PM 
Mate,
Your right on,

Arundell Pryor went from the 3rd company to 1st Anzac HQ in March 1917 and I would surpose he took Harold Rose place as batman. This would gell with the records.

I have no record of him leaving this postion in Oct 1917 to be replaced by Charles? But I wouldn't discount it and your reference of photos would make it so.

Cramb was a prolifice photo taker and there are many on the AWM site and appears to have a preferance for batman in the 3rd Company.

Cheers

S.B

Bamkin
Forum Member


Kazakhstan
12 Posts    Posted - 02/01/2005 :  11:15:37 PM 
Mate,
Thanks for the confirmation..... one other point.... another correspondent earlier in the debate said that there was a recording of Charles talking about his military life. Do you know if Andrew? ever transcribed the recording... is it possible to get a wav file or a transciption of this recording?

Any ideas how?

Thanks again
Roger

Andrew P
Forum Member


Australia
153 Posts    Posted - 11/01/2005 :  3:12:42 PM 
Roger
I only listened to the part about his military service, but I can borrow the tape to transcribe it in more detail if you are interested.

Cheers
Andrew

Bamkin
Forum Member


Kazakhstan
12 Posts    Posted - 12/01/2005 :  02:31:28 AM 
I would be very interested Andrew, if you could find the time. Even if it was only to summarise, rather than transcribe the tape. One possibility is to just send me a copy of the tape if that was easiest. My address is at www.pantoscripts.org.uk (under the Barclatcard symbol or you could email me at roger@bamkin.org.uk
thanks
Roger

Andrew P
Forum Member


Australia
153 Posts    Posted - 12/01/2005 :  2:56:31 PM 
There is a written summary of the tapes which initially might be quicker to send on to you.
Coincidentally I was doing some research in St John's Church this morning and noticed that the honour roll listed Bamkin's son, Eric who died in WW2.
Regards
Andrew



Bamkin
Forum Member


Kazakhstan
12 Posts    Posted - 13/01/2005 :  01:42:17 AM 
A big thank you to Andrew and Steve for assisting in this research.
Any later readers can find a summary of this data (including Eric) at www.bamkin.org.uk

thanks again

Roger
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